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作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-6 17:15 標題: ATOM Intel D510MO --- After power failure does not reboot is a well-know problem

本帖最後由角色於 2010-7-21 19:13 編輯

为什么真正安装Asterisk系统，这次特别订购ATOM Intel D510MO系统，那么我就可以在这个系统上可以做很多的工作的测试，例如更加FXO card，那么我们就可以脱离ATCOM的IP01 + FXO了。

等我有了系统，然后慢慢调整，看看效果是怎样。

角色

基本要求：

1）BIOS要有 Power on restart function
2) Case 可以安装additional FXO cards。

YH

作者: ckleea 時間: 2010-7-6 20:38

Could you let me know what is the specification of your system?

I also notice that IP01 may not be sufficient. There should be some other better system.

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-6 21:44

The configuration is very simple, Intel Mainbord D510MO, 40G Harddisk, 1G RAM, mini-case, I believe that the configuration is good enough for running Asterisk server. I would like to buy a two-port FXO card from ATCOM but I forgot the model number and the price. Do you remember it?

Since I am using Intel board instead of the promoted one, the price is increased from 998 to 1175.

ATCOM IP01 is good for those members who are not familiar with the installation of Asterisk server and FXO cards. It save a lot of time and efforts.

YH

作者: ckleea 時間: 2010-7-7 15:18

Hardware broad is ok and simple to use. Why not order a four port card and 2 FXO modules? The bare card should be more or less the same.
I have used a 4 port version with 2 FXO. Very simple to configure.

作者: bubblestar 時間: 2010-7-7 16:49

ATCOM 4 FXO/FXS Mother Board RMB 275.00
ATCOM FXO module (Single Channel) RMB 240.00
ATCOM FXS module (Single Channel) RMB 205.00

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-7 18:19

The main board is okay but not for FXO modules which we could obtain from Taobao at RMB100.

YH

作者: ckleea 時間: 2010-7-7 20:13

Beware of the quality of these FXO modules, which is crucial. There may be problem in line hunting.

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-7 21:26

It seems that you have experienced this situation before. Have you bought any FXO cards which are very good?

YH

作者: ckleea 時間: 2010-7-7 21:38

Not yet at the moment. They are expensive stuff. I would wait and see if other alternative available. At the moment, I hook up a SPA3000 to do PSTN gateway. Sound quality drops a bit but overall it is fairly acceptable. I tried recently when I did an overseas trip.

作者: bubblestar 時間: 2010-7-8 09:38

I heard that there are many fake FXO modules out there in the market. If the price difference is not big enough and if you tend to get a reliable connection for a long period of time, better choose a real one.

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-8 10:44

Oh! My God! My Intel mianboard does not support auto-boot after power up!

Next time, make sure that the BIOS supports this function if you want it to be your Asterisk Server.

YH

作者: ckleea 時間: 2010-7-8 18:02

回復 10# bubblestar

A small module causes few hundred dollars. This is why there are poor quality modules. Only get from reliable source.

作者: ckleea 時間: 2010-7-8 18:03

回復 11# 角色

Why!. I think it is a simple function in the BIOS. Is your BIOS genuine from Intel not from other OEM? OEM broad BIOS usually has more functions.

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-8 19:07

I do not know whether there has a third part BIOS firmware for Intel board. We have to collect the required information to make a reliable Asterisk Server.

YH

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-8 19:07

回復角色

Why!. I think it is a simple function in the BIOS. Is your BIOS genuine from Intel ...
ckleea 發表於 2010-7-8 18:03

Did you buy the two FXO modules from ATCOM too?

YH

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-8 20:38

本帖最後由角色於 2010-7-8 20:42 編輯

回復角色

Why!. I think it is a simple function in the BIOS. Is your BIOS genuine from Intel ...
ckleea 發表於 2010-7-8 18:03

Intel uses different wordings for the AC power failure recovery function. Intel uses "After power failure" with three options: Stay off, Last state, Power on. In the previous attempt, I have tried the third option "Power on" but it did not work at that time. Later on after playing around with other parameter values, such as "Wake on Lan from S5" and "Wake system from S5", the auto-on function works. After removing the last two parameters settings, the auto-on function still works. I am wondering what has happened and what has done besides the above-mentioned task.

Any way, it is confirmed that Intel D510MO board does have the auto-on function (or AC power failure recovery function). As the result, the Asterisk will resume after AC power failure recovery.

In fact, if you have paid more, you may get another mainboard which consumes less power at higher price from Intel ATOM-based mother boards. I believe that the price will be much higher than the one that I got, as a result, I did not choose that option. It requires a notebook RAM which causes you some money. If you want to have a more reliable system with less power consumption. You may choose that option.

The model of that board is INTEL D945GSEJT ATOM N270.

YH

作者: ckleea 時間: 2010-7-8 22:16

Good. You find the reason and trick.

作者: ckleea 時間: 2010-7-8 22:16

回復 15# 角色

Yes, it was 2 from them. They do have good support.

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-8 23:09

How much that you paid for the mother board and the two FXO cards?

YH

作者: 電腦超人 時間: 2010-7-9 00:43

家裡原本已有一台機打算是給Asterisk用的...後來便沒用了...
最迎打算嘗試在VM中起Asterisk...(而且還希望將幾台機退役...因為太多機在運行了...)

不過首要問題是先搞定前面的ClearOS...

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-9 07:57

我们可能比较简单，用Hardware router，而不像坛主你那么专业，用Software router。

角色

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-9 08:00

Good. You find the reason and trick.
ckleea 發表於 2010-7-8 22:16

Does your ATOM-based system comes with CD-ROM drive? How did you install your Asterisk system? Did you use any USB-HDD or USB-ZIP flash drive?

YH

作者: ckleea 時間: 2010-7-9 10:26

My atom based system does not have a CD-ROM. I have USB-CDROM but my system is installed like this.

I have a working Centos server before. I just move the file system into the 2.5" harddisk and make some adjustment of the boot file. After some configurations, I then install asterisk. As like you, my first asterisk was installed in a DD-WRT router and then migrated to the present system. Moreover, I have now used YUM to install and upgrade the asterisk.

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-9 11:17

How did you make a ordinary USB flash to a USB-CDROM? As I know that in order to make a USB flash to a USB-CDROM flash, it requries a certain type of USB flash, right?

YH

作者: bubblestar 時間: 2010-7-9 12:29

I think what ckleea said was an external USB-CDROM instead of turning a USB flash stick into an USB-CDROM.

In fact, if your USB flash stick is not too old, it can be recognized and bootable by the BIOS. What you need to do is to turn the Asterisk software into an image file in .ISO format and copy it into the USB flash stick as it is.

作者: bubblestar 時間: 2010-7-9 12:34

The following tutuorial is informative and may help.

Trixbox 2.8 CE install via USB

作者: ckleea 時間: 2010-7-9 14:12

I think what ckleea said was an external USB-CDROM instead of turning a USB flash stick into an USB- ...
bubblestar 發表於 2010-7-9 12:29

There are two ways to make and CD_ROM ISO to boot from a USB stick
1. to set up Grub and use iso image. The problem of this is that you can't have a too large image. Though it claims to work, my experience with large image is likely to fail
2. some linux versions allows you to convert ISO into a bootable USB stick but it is unlikely to have not possible for Asterisk Image.

My solution can be like this
install your favourable image to a hard disk
clone the partition to the drive you need by your favourable program e.g. ghost or I use Arconis True Image
the last step to use either a bootable CD or USB stick to make change to your grub bootloader in the harddisk partition

Or
you may move the 2.5" harddisk to a PC to install your favourable asterisk and then connect back to your ATOM PC.

Please note that linux is more friendly than MS Windows. Usually no need for driver installation. In your case, you use a Intel 945 chipset which is just plug and ply. Much better is that it usually won't leave much old drivers in the system

Hope this can help.

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-9 14:21

Thank Bubblestar C-Hing for providing the most useful link to me. I hope this would help me to fix the installation probelm that I have encountered.

YH

作者: bubblestar 時間: 2010-7-9 16:04

回復 28# 角色

May I ask for the photo capture of your mini Asterisk posted here so as to see how tiny your system (case) is. Thanks!

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-9 16:19

I bought the Intel D510MO from this Taobao seller (shown below) at higher price of RMB 1175. If you use ordinary boards, you may get it at RMB998.

http://item.taobao.com/auction/i ... 71801415cf7f7817767

YH

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-9 16:27

本帖最後由角色於 2010-7-9 16:59 編輯

其实如果大家对功率要求还要低的话，可以考虑下面的版：

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=2729282395

角色

作者: bubblestar 時間: 2010-7-9 16:36

Thanks for the info.

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-10 08:36

因为我有最新的AsteriskNOW 1.7的ISO，然后烧成CDROM，再用我的SATA CDROM，那么我就可以安装了Asterisk 1.6.2 + FreePBX系统。在AsteriskNOW 1.7里有好几个Options:

1) Asterisk 1.6 + FreePBX
2) Asterisk 1.4 + FreePBX
3) Afterisk 1.4 + AsteriskGUI
4）Asterisk 1.6
5）Asterisk 1.4

那么基本上你想要的都有，问题是你安装后需要很多touch-up，取替是怎样做呢？这个需要慢慢来，现在我选择了Option 1 （Asterisk 1.6 + FreePBX），因为我知道慢慢很多人都用FreePBX，所以在这方面花点时间去钻研。

至于怎样用USB flash drive来启动ISO images，还需要一段时间。

角色

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-21 11:31

For Intel D541MO motherboard, If the OS is Microsoft Windows, the system can follow BIOS setting of "After Power Failure". However if OS is changed to Linux, it seems that the auto-start after power failure does not work! I do not know it works for Windows but not for Windows.

YH

作者: ckleea 時間: 2010-7-21 12:38

應該是OS independent. 當有電時，第一步是行 BIOS 唔係 OS

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-21 17:36

真的不知道，好像BIOS没有听从指挥。之前试过都是可以，但是现在却不行！

角色

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-21 18:34

我看过下面的信息，不知道是否有帮助？

http://www.computing.net/answers ... -failure/51864.html

角色

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-21 19:11

本帖最後由角色於 2010-7-21 19:27 編輯

如果Intel的Mainboard是一个Well-Know Problems。

请大家看：
http://communities.intel.com/thread/4497?start=0&tstart=0

要用安装一个22uF的Cap，详细内容请看上面说明。

还有下面的信息：
http://www.expresshosting.net/ho ... on-auto-turnon.html

角色

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-21 20:35

看过帖子和他们的Intel底板，其实那个Cap的主要用途是模拟按住Power On/Off key。

因为刚给电的时候，那个Cap刚刚两边有电，所以在瞬间Cap是shorted，那么Intel看成就是我们按了一下On/Off Button。

我在别的文章也看过，如果做的比较好，可能要一枚CMOS去做。

角色

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-21 20:38

这的想不到，Intel的版都会出现这样的情况！！！真的是令人失望！！！

不知道这个问题是否来自电源呢？是否电源不太好的关系呢？如果用比较大和好的火牛是否有所改善呢？

角色

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-21 20:49

本帖最後由角色於 2010-7-21 21:41 編輯

其实最好的方法就是Power On/Off switch 两端
                  +          -
PW + -----------Diode -------------------
                                       |          |
                                       |          |
                              Cap ==       [] Resistor
                                       |          |
PW GND -----------------------------------

就是停电后，Resistor是用来放电，还有使Cap在来电的时候，是与GND的电位一样，既是short circuited （短路）。

角色

作者: ckleea 時間: 2010-7-21 21:34

冇辦法啦！要接受現實。簡單的功能都忘了做。

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-21 21:43

但是这块版我试过是可以，但是不知道为什么现在又不行。有了这个方案也可以接受。

角色

作者: helenmak 時間: 2010-7-21 23:12

睇到一款嵌入式Asterisk工业主板http://openvox.cn/aboutus/show.php?itemid=65&lang=1

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-21 23:39

谢谢楼上的信息。上面的embedded的Asterisk Server，是否系X86结构呢？

角色

作者: helenmak 時間: 2010-7-21 23:53

好拟是http://www.openvox.cn/products/show.php?itemid=161&lang=2
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=6022720821

作者: ckleea 時間: 2010-7-22 06:16

都幾貴。

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-22 08:47

这款CPU，好像我们的CentOS安装不了，不然的话，fit-PC 系列就可以用上CentOS上。价格和fit-PC2的差不多，而fit-PC2有case和电源，这个什么都没有。所以大家买入的时候真的要考虑清楚。

角色

作者: 角色 時間: 2010-7-22 09:21

昨晚跟卖家问过，他说我可以换别的power supply，看看是否一样。我说我整套都是从你那里买的，我哪里有别的power supply呢？不过我估计有这个可能，因为Intel设计东西可以根据标准的ATX power来设计，如果ATX电源不是标准，那么自动重启就可能有问题。

如果是这样，可能买入用12V的板子比较好，因为12V输入后，其他电源又mainboard供应。

角色

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